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firefly


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 16.04hrs on Thu 17 May 18
Great update, Stringy.I hope people can see this posting of the Cheviot. [www.facebook.com]

pinhead27


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 18.38hrs on Thu 17 May 18
^ When i click on the link, it takes me to a page asking me to 'log in'. I would like to see the photos but really don't want to log into Facebook!

firefly


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 19.22hrs on Thu 17 May 18
This should work: [www.facebook.com]

Rich_T


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 21.22hrs on Thu 17 May 18
firefly Wrote:
This should work:

It has done, thanks

Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 10.33hrs on Fri 18 May 18
It was a Cross Fell yesterday. My route took me from Kirkland, up Kirkdale then across to the head of Crowdundle Beck, over the back to check out the area that Crouch Potato described ( I think I found the correct area - excellent, deep shake holes, but no snow). I then traversed round to and along the Northern escarpement to Cross Fell Well and finally down to Ranscleugh Sike (GR 663348).

The first 2 sites are visible from the valley so I knew that there would be snow present. These patches will probably last a few more days as they are quite shallow and broken now. As mentioned I couldn't find any over the back despite wandering around for a hour or so looking in every hole I could find. The patches on the North side are all very shallow and will probably gone by next week. Cross Fell Well was however looking quite robust (approx. 25 x 20 x 1.5m). Ranscleugh Sike is still quite large (30 x 5 x 1m?).

Of all the patches observed this week, I think the longest lasting will be either Cross Fell Well or one of the patches on Great Dun Fell, which I could see clearly today and still looked pretty good.

Attachments: 1. Kirkdale \'shelf\' 17.5.18.JPG (268kB)   2. Kirkdale middle hollow 17.5.18.JPG (293kB)   3. Crowdundle Beck 17.5.18.JPG (246kB)   4. Cross Fell North side 17.5.18.JPG (234kB)   5. Cross Fell Well 17.5.18.JPG (264kB)  
Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 10.35hrs on Fri 18 May 18
Here a couple more photos of Cross Fell Well and Ranscleugh Sike.

Attachments: 6. Cross Fell Well 17.5.18.JPG (258kB)   7. Ranscleugh Sike 17.5.18.JPG (288kB)  
pinhead27


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 11.08hrs on Fri 18 May 18
firefly Wrote:
This should work:


Thanks Iain!

firefly


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 22.33hrs on Mon 21 May 18
Brown Cove on Helvellyn today. [twitter.com]

Rich_T


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 15.42hrs on Tue 22 May 18
How long do you think that'll last on Helvellyn? The weather has been warm, but also dry so it's taken with one hand but given back with the other to some extent.

Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 21.28hrs on Tue 22 May 18
Rich_T Wrote:
How long do you think that'll last on Helvellyn? The weather has been warm, but also dry so it's taken with one hand but given back with the other to some extent.


Looking at that photo, I reckon the snow at Brown Cove has another week left. It may just scrape it into June.

I have just got back from a run round the snow patch sites in Great Rundale, Grren Fell and Great Dun Fell. I'll post some pictures later when I've sorted them out.

Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 22.49hrs on Tue 22 May 18
I checked out the Great Rundale, Green Fell and Great Dun Fell areass this afternoon.

All the snow has gone from Great Rundale and Green Fell - I could still just see these patches through binoculars on Saturday afternoon, so they probably disappeared on Sunday the 20th.

On Great Dun Fell, there was still some snow snow in Middle Tongue Beck, but this will be gone tomorrow. However, the patch nearer to Silver Band mine is still quite large (25m long-ish) and should last at least until next weekend. The final patch is the one just below the Great Dun Fell road in Knock Ore Gill and although quite long is maybe only 30cm deep - it may lst a couple of days as it gets very little direct sunlight.

This only leaves the patches on Cross Fell, which I will visit later in the week.

Attachments: 1. Middle Tongue beck 22.5.18.JPG (318kB)   2. Below Silver Band 22.5.18.JPG (272kB)   3. Below Silver Band 22.5.18.JPG (242kB)   4. Knock Ore Gill 22.5.18.JPG (320kB)  
firefly


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 19.43hrs on Wed 23 May 18
Great stuff, Stringy. Still some snow on Great End, as seen here: [twitter.com]

Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 14.58hrs on Fri 25 May 18
Just got back from a quick visit to the Cross Fell snow patches - I was either going to go today or tomorrow but it seems I made the right choice by going today.

There was a tiny bit of snow left in Ranscleugh Sike - this will be gone by tomorrow.

Cross Fell Well had a bit more - there may be some left tomorrow but not the day after. This was slightly surprising as this patch seemed quite robust last week, but we've had a very dry Easterly wind the last few days which melts snow fast.

There was also a small patch further along the Northern escarpment, but this will be gone tomorrow.

This means that the patch on Great Dun Fell, near Silver Band mine will be the last snow in the Pennines this year.

Attachments: 1. Ranscleugh Sike 25.5.18.JPG (265kB)   2. Cross Fell Well 25.5.18.JPG (235kB)   3. Cross Fell Well 25.5.18.JPG (295kB)   4. North scarp slope 25.5.18.JPG (275kB)  
PeterS


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 17.53hrs on Fri 25 May 18
Pity. After the long fetch easterly I was hoping the Pennines would hold longer than the Lakes this year, which they more regularly did in the 1970s and 80s.

Stringy


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Re: Snow Patches in England and Wales 2018
Date Posted: 22.01hrs on Fri 25 May 18
PeterS Wrote:
Pity. After the long fetch easterly I was hoping the Pennines would hold longer than the Lakes this year, which they more regularly did in the 1970s and 80s.


Yes, it is quite surprising in a way after the snowfall on late Feb/early March. But whilst it was a decent amount of snow that fell in that period, the main factor was the wind. By some accounts of folk who live in the villages along the foot of the Pennines, was the worst Helm wind in living memory. This blew the very dry and light snow into huge drifts but only in some favoured locations and often right down to valley levels. By mid-March much of the high ground was completely bare, but there were deep drifts in the Eden Valley that hung around for several weeks.

The patch in Brown cove and others in the Lakes benefited from quite frequent snow falls (on westerlies) earlier in the winter that built a good base making it pretty resilient to thaw.



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 22.02hrs Fri 25 May 18 by Stringy.

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