I like the darlek shaped one in Alan's pic

can we get them please...I'll be good to skiers...and double up on t bars...buy my lunch on the hill...do anything really.

Overnight Snow or snowmaking? At the Lecht this morning

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Snow making, but they seem to have forgotten about the middle of the beginner runs!

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I saw these guns last year, there was quite a lot of talk going on about them, other people in America/Canada were messing about with them(hkd rip offs), they were making snow but the temps had to be very very low for them to make any decent volume and they and megga high pressure pumps going, so I never looked that much into them......

I'll put a tenner on it they guns would be no use for Scotland, to make snow with them at -4wb, I'm guessing the water will have to be up full pressure- 42bar, quite a lot, wont get that of a hydrant, dunno if you would get 300psi.. And they will have to be 30ft(more freezing time) up in the air aswell....

And you would probaly still need air, u still need to blow all the water out the lines or they could/will freeze and pop!.

Australia- whatever they have- we should have!

so has cairngorm fired up any snoe making yet?

Snowmaking chat may be going off the radar with fresh snow falling but here's another example of where it could make a real difference:



Snowmaking when it was colder and before the last lot of snow came in (or even now) could have put a narrow snow bridge down that the base could have built on. A complete and skiable Gunbarrel with fresh snow building depth and getting packed down with traffic and piste bashers to get a real base down there.



Edited 1 times. Last edit at 00.04hrs Wed 24 Jan 07 by alan.

Snowmaking hasn't been forgotten even though everyone is understandably pre-occupied with the present conditions.
We expect to be discussing this subject with BK and others from CML in the near future....watch this space.

Regards
Olderalan

Nice one Olderalan, it's going to be inetersting to hear how those snow making trials go whenever they're happening.

Alternatively a tipping trailer behind a piste basher and dump the stuff in there !

Who's paying for the snowmaking trials, and what kinda kit are they gony be using?

could they not cover the burn with something - in the alps they would make the water go through a rubber pipe underneath, but that would be crap really, it would look ugly and isn't really environmentally friendly.

could they not build a kind-of wooden bridge over - planks nailed onto 2 logs of wood that could just be laid over the burn when winter arrives? but would it be blown away by the wind though? could they then use snowmaking to put a base over it as soon as they put it down to 'nail' it to the floor?

Some hefty summer grooming will be needed up there to make snowmaking more viable I think, drop some gas pipe in cover it with hardcore(or aw the tax payers coins) then dirt, then make yer snow!

It will be a lot cheaper than having to make x amount of snow just tae fill in areas to bring the snow to a decent level, removal of more rocks etc also will bring the cost of making snow down.....

yeah, and grass over the traverse, zig zags and home road

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I'd prefer tae drop a nuke on the place, and send the snowmaking gear tae Glenshee!

It is currently -9°c on the Summit of CairnGorm Mountain and in Aviemore in still air. No lapse rate at present.

Snow guns could be absolutely blazing at full tilt producing great snow in these conditions. In fact snowmaking could have been going non-stop now for 72hours with a decent system in place (assumptions regards getting water!).

A snowmaking system capable of powering 20 to 25 SMI Highland Fan Guns concurrently could over Monday, Tues and Wed have done the following (its late for this kind of maths!):

•During Monday filled the gaps in the Traverse and Zig Zags.
•Ongoing through the whole of Monday being blasting into the Gunbarrel - run+track
•Laid down an M1 Uptrack.
•Put down a layer of 6-8inches fresh on the Cas Tues.
•Depth and base to Link Lift Area Tues AM.
•Carpark Track/Direct Carpark Run (Tue into Wed)
•Wed - White Lady.

Top to Bottom riding on the Cas side - 2 additional surface lifts, some advanced terrain, qood quality easy route to middle instead or rock hoping. Plus a good already in key areas for if the natural snow does come over the next few days to build on - in time for half term.

Is that three half terms in a row snowmaking could have substantially boosted?